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	<title>Comments on: On the Shelves: 5/9/07</title>
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		<title>By: plok</title>
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		<dc:creator>plok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 23:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Guy...I also loved Okko!  In fact I preferred it to Artesia.  But, yeah, the same thing applies...I wasn&#039;t hoping that Okko would have a completely original setting, completely novel character-types, etc., rather I was hoping it would be an intelligent, engaging, well-written Japanese ghost story/fantasy archipelago quest.  And, it is!

Full disclosure:  I didn&#039;t like Robotika so much.  &lt;i&gt;Its&lt;/i&gt; derivative nature aggravated me a little more than Okko&#039;s, or even (and I know this sounds insane, I really do) Artesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Guy&#8230;I also loved Okko!  In fact I preferred it to Artesia.  But, yeah, the same thing applies&#8230;I wasn&#8217;t hoping that Okko would have a completely original setting, completely novel character-types, etc., rather I was hoping it would be an intelligent, engaging, well-written Japanese ghost story/fantasy archipelago quest.  And, it is!</p>
<p>Full disclosure:  I didn&#8217;t like Robotika so much.  <i>Its</i> derivative nature aggravated me a little more than Okko&#8217;s, or even (and I know this sounds insane, I really do) Artesia.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 13:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stuart: The reveal was a bit left field, but it&#039;ll be the follow-up that convinces me whether it worked or not. Criminal is a good read, but it&#039;s not quite as great as the hype might lead you to believe.  It&#039;s solid Brubaker, though, so if you&#039;re a fan of his, it&#039;s worth picking up. And yeah, Iron Fist has been good so far, but I kind of doubt it can sustain its initial level of goodness past the first arc or two.

@Katherine: Okko may have some derivative elements -- and honestly, what comic doesn&#039;t these days? -- but its execution has been solid so far, and the art, as you noted, is amazing. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popcultureshock.com/robotika-an-impressive-artistic-vision/41430/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I loved Robotika&lt;/a&gt;, too, and almost made a reference to it but thought the connection was more in my own head than would be obvious to others. I&#039;ll have to look into Berserk and Koike, though, as I&#039;m unfamiliar with both. Thanks!

PS: Plok has &lt;a href=&quot;http://circumstantial.wordpress.com/2007/04/08/buddy-guy-part-2/&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a great review of ASP&#039;s Artesia&lt;/a&gt; where he talks about the derivative elements of the work, and explains why it works for him because of, not in spite of them. Good reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stuart: The reveal was a bit left field, but it&#8217;ll be the follow-up that convinces me whether it worked or not. Criminal is a good read, but it&#8217;s not quite as great as the hype might lead you to believe.  It&#8217;s solid Brubaker, though, so if you&#8217;re a fan of his, it&#8217;s worth picking up. And yeah, Iron Fist has been good so far, but I kind of doubt it can sustain its initial level of goodness past the first arc or two.</p>
<p>@Katherine: Okko may have some derivative elements &#8212; and honestly, what comic doesn&#8217;t these days? &#8212; but its execution has been solid so far, and the art, as you noted, is amazing. <a href="http://www.popcultureshock.com/robotika-an-impressive-artistic-vision/41430/" rel="nofollow">I loved Robotika</a>, too, and almost made a reference to it but thought the connection was more in my own head than would be obvious to others. I&#8217;ll have to look into Berserk and Koike, though, as I&#8217;m unfamiliar with both. Thanks!</p>
<p>PS: Plok has <a href="http://circumstantial.wordpress.com/2007/04/08/buddy-guy-part-2/" target="new" rel="nofollow">a great review of ASP&#8217;s Artesia</a> where he talks about the derivative elements of the work, and explains why it works for him because of, not in spite of them. Good reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Dacey-Tsuei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Dacey-Tsuei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see &lt;i&gt;Okko&lt;/i&gt; get some love from the comic community. I thought the artwork was stunning, but the plot and characters were derivative. (Cross &lt;i&gt;Berserk&lt;/i&gt; with anything from the Kazuo Koike canon and presto! you have &lt;i&gt;Okko&lt;/i&gt;.) I strongly preferred &lt;i&gt;Robotika&lt;/i&gt;, which I thought was more interesting and, frankly, original.

I do agree, however, that ASP puts out some smart-looking books. &lt;i&gt;Mouse Guard&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Robotika&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;The Killer&lt;/i&gt; are all favorites of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see <i>Okko</i> get some love from the comic community. I thought the artwork was stunning, but the plot and characters were derivative. (Cross <i>Berserk</i> with anything from the Kazuo Koike canon and presto! you have <i>Okko</i>.) I strongly preferred <i>Robotika</i>, which I thought was more interesting and, frankly, original.</p>
<p>I do agree, however, that ASP puts out some smart-looking books. <i>Mouse Guard</i>, <i>Robotika</i>, and <i>The Killer</i> are all favorites of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 10:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Guns was going along quite well until the final reveal that seemed weirdly unconvincing. For that sort of thing to pay off I really need to believe in it and the characters earlier actions sort of contradict who he turns out to be, I&#039;m not sure if you know what I&#039;m talking about but I don&#039;t want to give away spoilers.

Although, I agree with you that Grant makes me want to come back to see what happens next. Hell, I&#039;d be on for at least another issue just because it is actually Steven Grant. 

I didn&#039;t read Criminal first time round so i guess i&#039;ll pick up the trade, but Immortal Iron Fist stays on my pull list until its canceled &#039;cause it&#039;s ten kinds of awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Guns was going along quite well until the final reveal that seemed weirdly unconvincing. For that sort of thing to pay off I really need to believe in it and the characters earlier actions sort of contradict who he turns out to be, I&#8217;m not sure if you know what I&#8217;m talking about but I don&#8217;t want to give away spoilers.</p>
<p>Although, I agree with you that Grant makes me want to come back to see what happens next. Hell, I&#8217;d be on for at least another issue just because it is actually Steven Grant. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t read Criminal first time round so i guess i&#8217;ll pick up the trade, but Immortal Iron Fist stays on my pull list until its canceled &#8217;cause it&#8217;s ten kinds of awesome.</p>
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