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	<description>cuz this geek shit is so damn cool</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, like the joker said, "I like it to be multiple choice."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, like the joker said, &#8220;I like it to be multiple choice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: M. F. Albon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. F. Albon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the Deluxe version last week and hated it because of the recoloring.  The color-coded flashbacks of the original version gave me the impression that the story was Joker-oriented -- like how schizophrenics supposedly have heightened color-perception.  I mean, does Van Gogh ring any bells?  BMY1 by contrast was known for pseudo-monochroma.  

Removing the yellow oval from Batman's insignia was a rather cheap attempt to shoehorn TKJ into the current DC continuity.  In all the post Zero-Hour retcons right up to now Batman has never had the yellow oval insignia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Deluxe version last week and hated it because of the recoloring.  The color-coded flashbacks of the original version gave me the impression that the story was Joker-oriented &#8212; like how schizophrenics supposedly have heightened color-perception.  I mean, does Van Gogh ring any bells?  BMY1 by contrast was known for pseudo-monochroma.  </p>
<p>Removing the yellow oval from Batman&#8217;s insignia was a rather cheap attempt to shoehorn TKJ into the current DC continuity.  In all the post Zero-Hour retcons right up to now Batman has never had the yellow oval insignia.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Strangis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Strangis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with Jack Mama.  The Greedo comparison doesn't work at all.

Though I was a huge fan of the original, I personally like the subtler colours in the new edition.  It really makes Bolland's inks stand out much more clearly, and IMHO his line work certainly should be the focus in anything he draws. 

BTW, Brian Bolland was interviewed at Fan Expo this year, and talked about the recolouring process, and a few other topics, here.

http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=155</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Jack Mama.  The Greedo comparison doesn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>Though I was a huge fan of the original, I personally like the subtler colours in the new edition.  It really makes Bolland&#8217;s inks stand out much more clearly, and IMHO his line work certainly should be the focus in anything he draws. </p>
<p>BTW, Brian Bolland was interviewed at Fan Expo this year, and talked about the recolouring process, and a few other topics, here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=155" rel="nofollow">http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=155</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this book several times over in the original color (whether online or from the library). I recently bought the Deluxe Edition not knowing it was recolored and was pleasantly surprised. Im a big fan of the new colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this book several times over in the original color (whether online or from the library). I recently bought the Deluxe Edition not knowing it was recolored and was pleasantly surprised. Im a big fan of the new colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"This becomes revisionist editing akin to Lucas making Greedo shoot first or changing the conversation between Vader and the Emperor in Empire Strikes Back to reflect Episode III’s version of events, or putting Hayden in the final shot of Return of the Jedi."

It's not "akin" to those changes. If Bolland changed the artwork to make the Joker shoot Barbara only after she attacked him first, it would be fair to compare it to Greedo shooting first. But removing the yellow oval, which changes nothing in regards to story or character, isn't even in the same galaxy as Greedo shooting first.

Greedo shooting first changed Han Solo’s character. It changed his motivation for killing Greedo. He originally shot Greedo in cold blood, and Lucas changed the scene to make him kill Greedo in self-defense. Removing the yellow oval changes a small part of Batman's costume.

Also, it's worth pointing out that the original version of The Killing Joke is still in print, unlike the original theatrical versions of Star Wars. So if you don't like the new version, fine, but nobody's rewriting the history books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This becomes revisionist editing akin to Lucas making Greedo shoot first or changing the conversation between Vader and the Emperor in Empire Strikes Back to reflect Episode III’s version of events, or putting Hayden in the final shot of Return of the Jedi.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not &#8220;akin&#8221; to those changes. If Bolland changed the artwork to make the Joker shoot Barbara only after she attacked him first, it would be fair to compare it to Greedo shooting first. But removing the yellow oval, which changes nothing in regards to story or character, isn&#8217;t even in the same galaxy as Greedo shooting first.</p>
<p>Greedo shooting first changed Han Solo’s character. It changed his motivation for killing Greedo. He originally shot Greedo in cold blood, and Lucas changed the scene to make him kill Greedo in self-defense. Removing the yellow oval changes a small part of Batman&#8217;s costume.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s worth pointing out that the original version of The Killing Joke is still in print, unlike the original theatrical versions of Star Wars. So if you don&#8217;t like the new version, fine, but nobody&#8217;s rewriting the history books.</p>
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		<title>By: JSL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that's just ridiculous.  The artist says that is the way he wanted to color the book.  It doesn't matter what happened in the "era".  If I'm hearing things correctly, it seems the "era" steamrolled over the artist, and it's good to see his original vision restored.

I'll bet if someone forced Frank Miller to watercolor Sin City and he took the opportunity to reissue it b/w in the wake of the movie, you'd hear an equal number of whiners.

"Greedo shooting first."  Man, grow up.  Lordy, no wonder people have such a negative image of the net community.  I'm going to Border's right f'n NOW to get this edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s just ridiculous.  The artist says that is the way he wanted to color the book.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what happened in the &#8220;era&#8221;.  If I&#8217;m hearing things correctly, it seems the &#8220;era&#8221; steamrolled over the artist, and it&#8217;s good to see his original vision restored.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet if someone forced Frank Miller to watercolor Sin City and he took the opportunity to reissue it b/w in the wake of the movie, you&#8217;d hear an equal number of whiners.</p>
<p>&#8220;Greedo shooting first.&#8221;  Man, grow up.  Lordy, no wonder people have such a negative image of the net community.  I&#8217;m going to Border&#8217;s right f&#8217;n NOW to get this edition.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"How is removing the yellow oval equivalent to Greedo shooting first?"

I think the reasoning people aren't liking the change is that it appears Bolland changed his line art to remove the oval.  

This becomes revisionist editing akin to Lucas making Greedo shoot first or changing the conversation between Vader and the Emperor in Empire Strikes Back to reflect Episode III's version of events, or putting Hayden in the final shot of Return of the Jedi.

In the comics, Batman was still wearing the yellow oval suit when it was originally published.  He doesn't now (that I am aware, I haven't read Batman comics in a long, long time), and he didn't have the oval in the flashbacks because of the time it was supposed to be set.  So it seems more akin to the changing of the art to make it seem more relevant to today's Batman instead of just recoloring and keeping the line art the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How is removing the yellow oval equivalent to Greedo shooting first?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the reasoning people aren&#8217;t liking the change is that it appears Bolland changed his line art to remove the oval.  </p>
<p>This becomes revisionist editing akin to Lucas making Greedo shoot first or changing the conversation between Vader and the Emperor in Empire Strikes Back to reflect Episode III&#8217;s version of events, or putting Hayden in the final shot of Return of the Jedi.</p>
<p>In the comics, Batman was still wearing the yellow oval suit when it was originally published.  He doesn&#8217;t now (that I am aware, I haven&#8217;t read Batman comics in a long, long time), and he didn&#8217;t have the oval in the flashbacks because of the time it was supposed to be set.  So it seems more akin to the changing of the art to make it seem more relevant to today&#8217;s Batman instead of just recoloring and keeping the line art the same.</p>
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		<title>By: K&#9650;LIGUL&#9650;</title>
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		<dc:creator>K&#9650;LIGUL&#9650;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Great work of restauration. Smile!:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Great work of restauration. Smile!:P</p>
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		<title>By: Joey L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's great to reissue this excellent story. New coloring brings added value, at least to those of us who like to keep every version on their shelves. The old book DID NOT GO AWAY! 
The Deluxe Edition may even bring in a couple of new Batman/Joker fans. 
Now we have a Joker version and a Batman version of the book, and multiple choice past as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s great to reissue this excellent story. New coloring brings added value, at least to those of us who like to keep every version on their shelves. The old book DID NOT GO AWAY!<br />
The Deluxe Edition may even bring in a couple of new Batman/Joker fans.<br />
Now we have a Joker version and a Batman version of the book, and multiple choice past as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Archile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It actually....looks good. I remember the first time I read TKJ, and I glanced at the coloring, I couldn't help but think "What the hell is this?!", but as I read it, it kinda grew on me, although I found it "out of place".....it was waaay too yellowy for me.

 The new coloring, however, suits my tastes much more. The colors look more natural, which helps inmerse the reader much more, atleast I think it does.

 In the end, I like both takes, but if I had to choose, I'd go with Bolland's take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It actually&#8230;.looks good. I remember the first time I read TKJ, and I glanced at the coloring, I couldn&#8217;t help but think &#8220;What the hell is this?!&#8221;, but as I read it, it kinda grew on me, although I found it &#8220;out of place&#8221;&#8230;..it was waaay too yellowy for me.</p>
<p> The new coloring, however, suits my tastes much more. The colors look more natural, which helps inmerse the reader much more, atleast I think it does.</p>
<p> In the end, I like both takes, but if I had to choose, I&#8217;d go with Bolland&#8217;s take.</p>
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