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	<title>Comments on: Is everything satisfactual with Song of the South?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The black characters in &quot;Song of the South&quot; were NOT slaves. The film was set after the American Civil War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black characters in &#8220;Song of the South&#8221; were NOT slaves. The film was set after the American Civil War.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Monroe</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/is-everything-satisfactual-with-song-of-the-south/41537/comment-page-1/#comment-70870</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ragnell, I see what your saying. Thanks for the clarification.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ragnell, I see what your saying. Thanks for the clarification.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ob -- Oh, I didn&#039;t say that to imply it was unreasonable.   I meant about the &lt;i&gt;kids&lt;/i&gt; who would watch the movie.  I figure they&#039;re a lot less likely to have any foreknowledge of the context, so would probably need it more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ob &#8212; Oh, I didn&#8217;t say that to imply it was unreasonable.   I meant about the <i>kids</i> who would watch the movie.  I figure they&#8217;re a lot less likely to have any foreknowledge of the context, so would probably need it more.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Monroe</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/is-everything-satisfactual-with-song-of-the-south/41537/comment-page-1/#comment-68824</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,

Thankfully, my brothers and I did grow up to be a well-adjusted people despite the racist imagery that we were exposed to as a child. But, I think that a lot of that was due to the efforts of my parents and the times that I grew up in. My maternal grandmother, though, who was raised in the segregated South with these images was adamant that her ancestors did not come from Africa (she would state that she was descended from Egyptians...my brothers and I finally showed her a map and proved to her that Egypt was in Africa). We cannot assume that these images, though, are not damaging. Black people who grew up in the pre-Civil Rights era knew this...people who grew up in Nazi Germany knew this. Images are powerful and the effect, unless counteracted, can be damaging to someone&#039;s psyche or someone&#039;s perceptions of others. 

My concern is also why it seems to be acceptable to release some racist imagery and not others. Our cultural history is replete with anti-Semitic imagery but I don&#039;t think that anyone in their right mind would even think about releasing any films, cartoons, comics or ephemera of those images unless it was in a historical context...and perhaps not even then.

Ragnell, when Disney releases these DVD&#039;s they know that a large segment of the purchasers are adult collectors (case in point, the metal tin collections they release...most children are not interested in seeing black and white Mickey Mouse cartoons or TV episodes of Davey Crockett) therefore a documentary discussing the historical significance of the film is not too unreasonable. 

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>Thankfully, my brothers and I did grow up to be a well-adjusted people despite the racist imagery that we were exposed to as a child. But, I think that a lot of that was due to the efforts of my parents and the times that I grew up in. My maternal grandmother, though, who was raised in the segregated South with these images was adamant that her ancestors did not come from Africa (she would state that she was descended from Egyptians&#8230;my brothers and I finally showed her a map and proved to her that Egypt was in Africa). We cannot assume that these images, though, are not damaging. Black people who grew up in the pre-Civil Rights era knew this&#8230;people who grew up in Nazi Germany knew this. Images are powerful and the effect, unless counteracted, can be damaging to someone&#8217;s psyche or someone&#8217;s perceptions of others. </p>
<p>My concern is also why it seems to be acceptable to release some racist imagery and not others. Our cultural history is replete with anti-Semitic imagery but I don&#8217;t think that anyone in their right mind would even think about releasing any films, cartoons, comics or ephemera of those images unless it was in a historical context&#8230;and perhaps not even then.</p>
<p>Ragnell, when Disney releases these DVD&#8217;s they know that a large segment of the purchasers are adult collectors (case in point, the metal tin collections they release&#8230;most children are not interested in seeing black and white Mickey Mouse cartoons or TV episodes of Davey Crockett) therefore a documentary discussing the historical significance of the film is not too unreasonable. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 05:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s dot s-- Do you think they could break it down so a child can understand the context of what they&#039;re watching?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s dot s&#8211; Do you think they could break it down so a child can understand the context of what they&#8217;re watching?</p>
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		<title>By: s dot s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s dot s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be great if Disney re-releases Song of the South with a DVD extra that discusses the history and cultural significance of the cartoon.

Sounds like a responsible compromise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if Disney re-releases Song of the South with a DVD extra that discusses the history and cultural significance of the cartoon.</p>
<p>Sounds like a responsible compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, forgive me, but based on what little I&#039;m able to infer from your comments, you sound as if you grew up into a well-adjusted person, despite seeing this racist imagery as a child. Obviously there are degrees when it comes to defining something like &quot;well-adjusted,&quot; but you don&#039;t sound like you&#039;re one step away from the deep end. Plus, you describe the childhood incident second-hand - your father said you and your brother said you didn&#039;t want to be black. Does that mean neither you nor your brother have no memory of the incident? Again, please forgive me, but I sincerely believe that this point is key to understanding whether or not racist imagery can adversely affect a child, and to what degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, forgive me, but based on what little I&#8217;m able to infer from your comments, you sound as if you grew up into a well-adjusted person, despite seeing this racist imagery as a child. Obviously there are degrees when it comes to defining something like &#8220;well-adjusted,&#8221; but you don&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;re one step away from the deep end. Plus, you describe the childhood incident second-hand &#8211; your father said you and your brother said you didn&#8217;t want to be black. Does that mean neither you nor your brother have no memory of the incident? Again, please forgive me, but I sincerely believe that this point is key to understanding whether or not racist imagery can adversely affect a child, and to what degree.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,

From what my father tells me, my brother and I, after watching an episode of &quot;Wide World of Disney&quot; that portrayed Africans cooking white people in pots, said that we no longer wanted to be Black. It was at this point that he wrote to Walt Disney and forbade us to watch Disney cartoons, Bugs Bunny, Popeye, The Little Rascals, The Three Stooges, Tarzan and Jungle Jim movies, anything with Stepin&#039; Fetchit and Mantan Moreland or, from how we saw it at the time, anything else that was good on TV. 

I grew up in a time when racist images were shown  on television and quite often appeared on what would be considered children&#039;s programming. Many people born after a particular time...1970 or so... have probably never seen these programs in their entirety (many were later shown with the offensive material omitted). Some years ago, I returned to college as an older student and attended a presentation on the Rutgers University campus about racist images in the media. None of the younger students had nver seen any of the images that were showed that evening and were shocked that they were ever shown on television. They had been raised after the cultural shifts of the 1960&#039;s and 1970&#039;s caused programmers to censor what they aired. 

By Disney releasing these films without any commentary or documentary putting them in their historical context they are contributing to the spread of damaging racist images. Images that can be used, as were the Shirley Temple movies rented by the woman on the Upper West Side of Manhattan looking to show &quot;darkie movies&quot; to her daughters or as the KKK used THE BIRTH OF A NATION as a recruiting tool up through the 1960&#039;s. One person&#039;s entertainment (or a corporation&#039;s lust for profit) can be the source of a child&#039;s negative self-image.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>From what my father tells me, my brother and I, after watching an episode of &#8220;Wide World of Disney&#8221; that portrayed Africans cooking white people in pots, said that we no longer wanted to be Black. It was at this point that he wrote to Walt Disney and forbade us to watch Disney cartoons, Bugs Bunny, Popeye, The Little Rascals, The Three Stooges, Tarzan and Jungle Jim movies, anything with Stepin&#8217; Fetchit and Mantan Moreland or, from how we saw it at the time, anything else that was good on TV. </p>
<p>I grew up in a time when racist images were shown  on television and quite often appeared on what would be considered children&#8217;s programming. Many people born after a particular time&#8230;1970 or so&#8230; have probably never seen these programs in their entirety (many were later shown with the offensive material omitted). Some years ago, I returned to college as an older student and attended a presentation on the Rutgers University campus about racist images in the media. None of the younger students had nver seen any of the images that were showed that evening and were shocked that they were ever shown on television. They had been raised after the cultural shifts of the 1960&#8217;s and 1970&#8217;s caused programmers to censor what they aired. </p>
<p>By Disney releasing these films without any commentary or documentary putting them in their historical context they are contributing to the spread of damaging racist images. Images that can be used, as were the Shirley Temple movies rented by the woman on the Upper West Side of Manhattan looking to show &#8220;darkie movies&#8221; to her daughters or as the KKK used THE BIRTH OF A NATION as a recruiting tool up through the 1960&#8217;s. One person&#8217;s entertainment (or a corporation&#8217;s lust for profit) can be the source of a child&#8217;s negative self-image.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Isabella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Isabella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, thoughtful, and thought-provoking piece, Rich.  Thanks for running/writing it.

Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, thoughtful, and thought-provoking piece, Rich.  Thanks for running/writing it.</p>
<p>Tony</p>
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