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	<title>Comments on: Flash Forward: The &#8216;sexification&#8217; of the Asian-American Male is Overdue</title>
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		<title>By: che</title>
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		<dc:creator>che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forget to mention Bulletproof Monk!  They rewrote the entire story to accommodate the fact that they were switching the protagonist from Tibetan to Stifler.</description>
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		<title>By: che</title>
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		<dc:creator>che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I think it&#039;s important to shine light on the fact that Hollywood has been snubbing Asian American (or even Asian) leads for quite some time, and continues to do so.  I&#039;m not an expert on the subject, but an immediate example which comes to mind is the television series Kung Fu.  It was created and dreamed up by Bruce Lee, and he had imagined himself starring, but the infinitely wise TV execs cast David Carradine instead.  In no world was Carradine a bigger martial arts star, nor a better martial artist than Bruce Lee.  Clearly, the industry believed Hollywood, and America was not ready for an Asian leading man.  

Let&#039;s jump ahead several decades.  The long-awaited on-screen team-up of Jet Li and Jackie Chan was set to occur in the film &quot;The Forbidden Kingdom&quot;.  These two Asian stars are arguably some of the most popular entertainers in the world.  However, some bonehead decided to relegate these superstars to supporting roles, boosting up an unknown white kid as the lead, and creating a far stupider movie in the process.  Meanwhile, the in-production &quot;The Last Airbender&quot; movie based on the animated series has replaced the Asian-looking protagonists with white actors, but left the villain (south) Asian.  And speaking of Cho&#039;s relationship with Union, I am reminded of an early American Jet Li production, &quot;Romeo Must Die&quot; wherein Jet Li is cast as &quot;Romeo&quot; essentially, but is stripped of all sexuality, when his relationship with the &quot;Juliette&quot; character (as played by Aaliyah) is transformed into a strictly platonic one.  Jackie Chan has enjoyed the same distinction in his American movies.  

The Abysmal Dragonball: Evolution left many of the supporting characters as Asian (particularly women and wise old men -- roles that Hollywood feels very comfortable giving to Asians) but made sure the lead was a white guy.  

There is definitely a pattern.  It is often a challenge to even get films made if they feature Asian leads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I think it&#8217;s important to shine light on the fact that Hollywood has been snubbing Asian American (or even Asian) leads for quite some time, and continues to do so.  I&#8217;m not an expert on the subject, but an immediate example which comes to mind is the television series Kung Fu.  It was created and dreamed up by Bruce Lee, and he had imagined himself starring, but the infinitely wise TV execs cast David Carradine instead.  In no world was Carradine a bigger martial arts star, nor a better martial artist than Bruce Lee.  Clearly, the industry believed Hollywood, and America was not ready for an Asian leading man.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s jump ahead several decades.  The long-awaited on-screen team-up of Jet Li and Jackie Chan was set to occur in the film &#8220;The Forbidden Kingdom&#8221;.  These two Asian stars are arguably some of the most popular entertainers in the world.  However, some bonehead decided to relegate these superstars to supporting roles, boosting up an unknown white kid as the lead, and creating a far stupider movie in the process.  Meanwhile, the in-production &#8220;The Last Airbender&#8221; movie based on the animated series has replaced the Asian-looking protagonists with white actors, but left the villain (south) Asian.  And speaking of Cho&#8217;s relationship with Union, I am reminded of an early American Jet Li production, &#8220;Romeo Must Die&#8221; wherein Jet Li is cast as &#8220;Romeo&#8221; essentially, but is stripped of all sexuality, when his relationship with the &#8220;Juliette&#8221; character (as played by Aaliyah) is transformed into a strictly platonic one.  Jackie Chan has enjoyed the same distinction in his American movies.  </p>
<p>The Abysmal Dragonball: Evolution left many of the supporting characters as Asian (particularly women and wise old men &#8212; roles that Hollywood feels very comfortable giving to Asians) but made sure the lead was a white guy.  </p>
<p>There is definitely a pattern.  It is often a challenge to even get films made if they feature Asian leads.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Tim Kang? As CBI agent Kimball Cho over on The Mentalist? He&#039;s on a hit show, is the second-in-command of their team, is attractive and acknowledged to be so, runs around being manly with a gun and is the best interrogator on the team, gets to be snarky and deadpan and is overall extremely awesome? And has been around for a whole season longer than Demitri Noh?

Don&#039;t get me wrong, John Cho and Demitri are both awesome, but, as Patrick Jane said, there&#039;s no business like Cho business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Tim Kang? As CBI agent Kimball Cho over on The Mentalist? He&#8217;s on a hit show, is the second-in-command of their team, is attractive and acknowledged to be so, runs around being manly with a gun and is the best interrogator on the team, gets to be snarky and deadpan and is overall extremely awesome? And has been around for a whole season longer than Demitri Noh?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, John Cho and Demitri are both awesome, but, as Patrick Jane said, there&#8217;s no business like Cho business.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree!  Hope we&#039;ll see more casting choices that reflect real-life with respect to Asian Americans.

Maybe I&#039;m just an old fart but I remember Jack Soo who played Detective Seageant Yemana on &quot;Barney Miller.&quot; In the mid-70&#039;s he was an actual Asian American male character and perhaps the first regular Asian American character on U.S. prime time television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree!  Hope we&#8217;ll see more casting choices that reflect real-life with respect to Asian Americans.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just an old fart but I remember Jack Soo who played Detective Seageant Yemana on &#8220;Barney Miller.&#8221; In the mid-70&#8242;s he was an actual Asian American male character and perhaps the first regular Asian American character on U.S. prime time television.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Estrella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie Estrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jo, To be honest, it&#039;s just nice to see Asians on the screen, and if the actors get good work and there&#039;s some variety in it for them where they&#039;re inspired to knock it out of the park, I&#039;m for it. I can&#039;t get upset at who portrays down-trodden characters. Someone has to play those roles, I don&#039;t really care who, as long as they&#039;re good. Would we rather the Wire be filled with an all-white cast except the leads to drive home &quot;Diversity&quot;. That wouldn&#039;t ring true either.

But I never use television shows/films as documentaries and guides to life. I can always hope for some more accuracy, but you can&#039;t let it bother you. I could never enjoy Veronica Mars if I couldn&#039;t get past the fact that there were no Filipino characters even though San Diego is the largest population of Filipinos outside of the Philippines. It&#039;s a pet peeve, but I love that show to my grave.

Cho&#039;s character is clearly very different that what we&#039;ve seen, probably since Dustin Nguyen in 21 jump street if you think about it. But what&#039;s been done since him? Nada. 

I can&#039;t get too discouraged over what you call &quot;hurtful&quot; roles. Look at what Viola Davis played the most pivotal role of the movie Doubt, and if you ask her, I don&#039;t think she&#039;d ever think twice about doing that role. That was a role of a lifetime whether you do it on stage or on film. As an actor you want to play a part that people will remember and that people will see. 

Perhaps you should venture outside some of your viewing habits and you&#039;ll find a ton of diverse roles out there for nearly every ethnic background except Asian males. It&#039;s honestly because they&#039;re rarely used, in America. As actors, models, in advertising, etc. When you&#039;re an actor, a juicy role is a juicy role. Middle Eastern actors have to deal with playing terrorists now. But if those are the only roles, you do your best, or you make your own films.

CS Lee on Dexter, and Michael Paul Chan on The Closer are others who have stepped it up, although Lee is still a dorky pervert (but an underachiever which I like), but neither is a LEAD role.

I&#039;m not angry about it, I&#039;m frustrated, but am enjoying it while I can. But what will be great is if Cho&#039;s character does die and it&#039;s a successful series, people will miss his character and do wonders for him. Look at what happened to Seth Green after he left Buffy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jo, To be honest, it&#8217;s just nice to see Asians on the screen, and if the actors get good work and there&#8217;s some variety in it for them where they&#8217;re inspired to knock it out of the park, I&#8217;m for it. I can&#8217;t get upset at who portrays down-trodden characters. Someone has to play those roles, I don&#8217;t really care who, as long as they&#8217;re good. Would we rather the Wire be filled with an all-white cast except the leads to drive home &#8220;Diversity&#8221;. That wouldn&#8217;t ring true either.</p>
<p>But I never use television shows/films as documentaries and guides to life. I can always hope for some more accuracy, but you can&#8217;t let it bother you. I could never enjoy Veronica Mars if I couldn&#8217;t get past the fact that there were no Filipino characters even though San Diego is the largest population of Filipinos outside of the Philippines. It&#8217;s a pet peeve, but I love that show to my grave.</p>
<p>Cho&#8217;s character is clearly very different that what we&#8217;ve seen, probably since Dustin Nguyen in 21 jump street if you think about it. But what&#8217;s been done since him? Nada. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t get too discouraged over what you call &#8220;hurtful&#8221; roles. Look at what Viola Davis played the most pivotal role of the movie Doubt, and if you ask her, I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;d ever think twice about doing that role. That was a role of a lifetime whether you do it on stage or on film. As an actor you want to play a part that people will remember and that people will see. </p>
<p>Perhaps you should venture outside some of your viewing habits and you&#8217;ll find a ton of diverse roles out there for nearly every ethnic background except Asian males. It&#8217;s honestly because they&#8217;re rarely used, in America. As actors, models, in advertising, etc. When you&#8217;re an actor, a juicy role is a juicy role. Middle Eastern actors have to deal with playing terrorists now. But if those are the only roles, you do your best, or you make your own films.</p>
<p>CS Lee on Dexter, and Michael Paul Chan on The Closer are others who have stepped it up, although Lee is still a dorky pervert (but an underachiever which I like), but neither is a LEAD role.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not angry about it, I&#8217;m frustrated, but am enjoying it while I can. But what will be great is if Cho&#8217;s character does die and it&#8217;s a successful series, people will miss his character and do wonders for him. Look at what happened to Seth Green after he left Buffy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: I&#039;ve actually begun the &lt;i&gt;FlashForward&lt;/i&gt; book and the character who sees no future in it is Greek.  That still doesn&#039;t answer whether the TV execs planned the role to be Asian or whether John Cho came in and blew them away and so they tweaked the role for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I&#8217;ve actually begun the <i>FlashForward</i> book and the character who sees no future in it is Greek.  That still doesn&#8217;t answer whether the TV execs planned the role to be Asian or whether John Cho came in and blew them away and so they tweaked the role for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle

I hear what you&#039;re saying. Perhaps it is just a coincidence that he was cast in a &quot;doomed&quot; role. But this seems to be a reoccurring pattern. It&#039;s unfortunate that the non-stereotypical roles are so far and few in-between or in this case, possibly short lived. 

@Ernie

I’ll have to take your word on some of these shows you mentioned, as I have not seen all of them.  But I will say this about the Wire: it may depict an accurate Baltimore, “inner city”, Black experience. While the acting is superb (everyday folks included) the problem again is this is one of the main depictions of the Black experience in America. But, it is not a realistic, diverse, all encompassing depiction. I wouldn’t have a problem with the show if there were other shows depicting Black folks as a variety of peoples, with various experiences, socio-economic statuses and characteristics. The Cosby show was a great example of showing another side of the Black experience. But this show’s positive image of middle class Black folks hasn’t continued to be pervasive throughout the years. No, it’s shows like the Wire that continue to be at the forefront representing the Black experience and Black people. And the show was not even created by a Black person. 

“I tend to think you see what you want to see sometimes. 

None of these roles I’ve mentioned have ever taken away from their sex appeal. My angle was that we not only see Cho in a lead role but he doesn’t fall in the stereotypical role for an Asian male and if seen in a lead role long enough he can be seen as not only a lead actor but a sexy lead actor who can be offered a variety of roles.”

That was my point exactly. I couldn’t agree with you more. But I would caution you because, what you are calling sexy for these roles played actors/actresses of color coincide with stereotypes to the point where people do see what they want to see and they don’t see that these stereotypes are hurtful to people of color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle</p>
<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying. Perhaps it is just a coincidence that he was cast in a &#8220;doomed&#8221; role. But this seems to be a reoccurring pattern. It&#8217;s unfortunate that the non-stereotypical roles are so far and few in-between or in this case, possibly short lived. </p>
<p>@Ernie</p>
<p>I’ll have to take your word on some of these shows you mentioned, as I have not seen all of them.  But I will say this about the Wire: it may depict an accurate Baltimore, “inner city”, Black experience. While the acting is superb (everyday folks included) the problem again is this is one of the main depictions of the Black experience in America. But, it is not a realistic, diverse, all encompassing depiction. I wouldn’t have a problem with the show if there were other shows depicting Black folks as a variety of peoples, with various experiences, socio-economic statuses and characteristics. The Cosby show was a great example of showing another side of the Black experience. But this show’s positive image of middle class Black folks hasn’t continued to be pervasive throughout the years. No, it’s shows like the Wire that continue to be at the forefront representing the Black experience and Black people. And the show was not even created by a Black person. </p>
<p>“I tend to think you see what you want to see sometimes. </p>
<p>None of these roles I’ve mentioned have ever taken away from their sex appeal. My angle was that we not only see Cho in a lead role but he doesn’t fall in the stereotypical role for an Asian male and if seen in a lead role long enough he can be seen as not only a lead actor but a sexy lead actor who can be offered a variety of roles.”</p>
<p>That was my point exactly. I couldn’t agree with you more. But I would caution you because, what you are calling sexy for these roles played actors/actresses of color coincide with stereotypes to the point where people do see what they want to see and they don’t see that these stereotypes are hurtful to people of color.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Haehnle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Haehnle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I should note that I just watched the first two eps of FFWD and am liking it. So far so good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I should note that I just watched the first two eps of FFWD and am liking it. So far so good.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Haehnle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Haehnle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Ernie. I am following your lead with another &quot;sexification of the Asian male&quot; post -- about James Kyson Lee (Ando from Heroes) http://www.popcultureshock.com/james-kyson-lee-sexification-asian-male/51329/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Ernie. I am following your lead with another &#8220;sexification of the Asian male&#8221; post &#8212; about James Kyson Lee (Ando from Heroes) <a href="http://www.popcultureshock.com/james-kyson-lee-sexification-asian-male/51329/" rel="nofollow">http://www.popcultureshock.com/james-kyson-lee-sexification-asian-male/51329/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually thought he was married to an Asian woman until just two minutes ago (Kai is her first name, leading me to think she&#039;s Japanese), but no, she&#039;s white. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually thought he was married to an Asian woman until just two minutes ago (Kai is her first name, leading me to think she&#8217;s Japanese), but no, she&#8217;s white. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kayode Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kayode Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Woodside was on Buffy. But that&#039;s another thing, not to go off on too much of a tangent, but while I love the different black characters Whedon&#039;s created for his shows, they never seem to find other black people to have sexy-time with! Think about it! Zoe and Wash in Firefly, Principal Wood and Faith on Buffy, Gunn and Fred on Angel, even in the Buffy comic, Xander had a brief flirtation with one of the slayer recruits that happened to be black. Not to mention that one episode of Buffy where Ashanti played a blind date of his that ended up being a demon who wanted to sacrifice him! I applaud Whedon for acknowledging interracial couples, but damn! He&#039;s coming dangerously close to establishing the idea that black people don&#039;t like other black people in his creative universe. (Is he married to a black woman, by chance?) Even on Dollhouse, Harry Lennix&#039;s character seemed to be leaning towards Amy Acker&#039;s character in a romantic way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Woodside was on Buffy. But that&#8217;s another thing, not to go off on too much of a tangent, but while I love the different black characters Whedon&#8217;s created for his shows, they never seem to find other black people to have sexy-time with! Think about it! Zoe and Wash in Firefly, Principal Wood and Faith on Buffy, Gunn and Fred on Angel, even in the Buffy comic, Xander had a brief flirtation with one of the slayer recruits that happened to be black. Not to mention that one episode of Buffy where Ashanti played a blind date of his that ended up being a demon who wanted to sacrifice him! I applaud Whedon for acknowledging interracial couples, but damn! He&#8217;s coming dangerously close to establishing the idea that black people don&#8217;t like other black people in his creative universe. (Is he married to a black woman, by chance?) Even on Dollhouse, Harry Lennix&#8217;s character seemed to be leaning towards Amy Acker&#8217;s character in a romantic way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Estrella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie Estrella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jo,

I would disagree a bit. There are many great straight black actors who had lead roles and very important parts that moved each respected show along.

Harrold Perrineau in Lost...

Erik King in Dexter

Shemar Moore in Criminal Minds

Andre Braugher in well, everything he&#039;s in.

DB Woodside, Dennis Haysbert as the Palmers in 24

Woodside and J. August Richards in Angel...

The Wire is filled with local actors/extras who live in Baltimore and I would debate anyone who would say that show is an inaccurate portrayal of Baltimore.

I tend to think you see what you want to see sometimes. 

None of these roles I&#039;ve mentioned have ever taken away from their sex appeal. My angle was that we not only see Cho in a lead role but he doesn&#039;t fall in the stereotypical role for an Asian male and if seen in a lead role long enough he can be seen as not only a lead actor but a sexy lead actor who can be offered a variety of roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jo,</p>
<p>I would disagree a bit. There are many great straight black actors who had lead roles and very important parts that moved each respected show along.</p>
<p>Harrold Perrineau in Lost&#8230;</p>
<p>Erik King in Dexter</p>
<p>Shemar Moore in Criminal Minds</p>
<p>Andre Braugher in well, everything he&#8217;s in.</p>
<p>DB Woodside, Dennis Haysbert as the Palmers in 24</p>
<p>Woodside and J. August Richards in Angel&#8230;</p>
<p>The Wire is filled with local actors/extras who live in Baltimore and I would debate anyone who would say that show is an inaccurate portrayal of Baltimore.</p>
<p>I tend to think you see what you want to see sometimes. </p>
<p>None of these roles I&#8217;ve mentioned have ever taken away from their sex appeal. My angle was that we not only see Cho in a lead role but he doesn&#8217;t fall in the stereotypical role for an Asian male and if seen in a lead role long enough he can be seen as not only a lead actor but a sexy lead actor who can be offered a variety of roles.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shola Hahaha, okay I can&#039;t disagree with anything you said but I still think it was cool. :)

@Jo I haven&#039;t read the book the series is based on, but I know there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a character who doesn&#039;t see anything when he flashes forward. Whether he&#039;s Asian in the book I couldn&#039;t say, but it might not be a case of creating an Asian char only to kill him but rather casting an Asian in a part that&#039;s doomed to die.  If that makes any sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shola Hahaha, okay I can&#8217;t disagree with anything you said but I still think it was cool. :)</p>
<p>@Jo I haven&#8217;t read the book the series is based on, but I know there <i>is</i> a character who doesn&#8217;t see anything when he flashes forward. Whether he&#8217;s Asian in the book I couldn&#8217;t say, but it might not be a case of creating an Asian char only to kill him but rather casting an Asian in a part that&#8217;s doomed to die.  If that makes any sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading your post Ernie. I agree with you all; the FF pilot was good and actually engages your brain cells (I love &quot;thinking&quot; tv./movies). I think Cho&#039;s acting has been superb and he&#039;s quite sexy. He&#039;s why I&#039;m watching the show too. I&#039;m also concerned that they’ll kill him off-typical treatment of non-stereotypical characters of color. Plus, he’s interacting with another person of color in a positive, romantic way. They tend to not last long...That said, I just wanna bring up some points. I&#039;m Afropina so I’m looking at this in a couple of ways.  I totally agree with you about the lack of non-stereotypical, Asian male images on tv, etc.  And yes, we do see more Black and Latino characters on tv or in the movies. Problem is, the majority of these depictions are still stereotypical.  The shows that don’t have stereotypical characters don’t get much support, if any, and die off quietly in the corner somewhere. Black folks are still “street”, “ghetto”, thugs, coons, mammies, singers/rappers &amp; dancers, jezebel or some kind of athlete, etc. The Latino images tend to be gangbangers, “spicy” Latina/o, immigrants, maids and gardeners (heavy accent included). So what&#039;s worse: seeing a lot of certain groups of color which creates the perception that these stereotypes are who they really are and all they can be or, not seeing enough of a another group of color period (and what we do see is again, stereotypical)? I say it&#039;s another conundrum we can attribute to living with the complexities of race under this White Supremacist system. In a perfect world, all actors/actresses of color would get a good amount of airtime and have the opportunity to play a variety of roles like White actors/actresses.  It’s the same ‘ol same ‘ol in Hollyweird. But for now, I’ll keep watching and see where the Cho’s character goes…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your post Ernie. I agree with you all; the FF pilot was good and actually engages your brain cells (I love &#8220;thinking&#8221; tv./movies). I think Cho&#8217;s acting has been superb and he&#8217;s quite sexy. He&#8217;s why I&#8217;m watching the show too. I&#8217;m also concerned that they’ll kill him off-typical treatment of non-stereotypical characters of color. Plus, he’s interacting with another person of color in a positive, romantic way. They tend to not last long&#8230;That said, I just wanna bring up some points. I&#8217;m Afropina so I’m looking at this in a couple of ways.  I totally agree with you about the lack of non-stereotypical, Asian male images on tv, etc.  And yes, we do see more Black and Latino characters on tv or in the movies. Problem is, the majority of these depictions are still stereotypical.  The shows that don’t have stereotypical characters don’t get much support, if any, and die off quietly in the corner somewhere. Black folks are still “street”, “ghetto”, thugs, coons, mammies, singers/rappers &amp; dancers, jezebel or some kind of athlete, etc. The Latino images tend to be gangbangers, “spicy” Latina/o, immigrants, maids and gardeners (heavy accent included). So what&#8217;s worse: seeing a lot of certain groups of color which creates the perception that these stereotypes are who they really are and all they can be or, not seeing enough of a another group of color period (and what we do see is again, stereotypical)? I say it&#8217;s another conundrum we can attribute to living with the complexities of race under this White Supremacist system. In a perfect world, all actors/actresses of color would get a good amount of airtime and have the opportunity to play a variety of roles like White actors/actresses.  It’s the same ‘ol same ‘ol in Hollyweird. But for now, I’ll keep watching and see where the Cho’s character goes…</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;now when I watch the show I am going to be creeped out thinking that he has been &#039;sexified.&#039;&quot;

LOL, then I probably shouldn&#039;t ruin the Harold &amp; Kumar movies by telling you what I was thinking about Harold... 

Seriously, John Cho is long overdue as a romantic lead, the dude is FINE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;now when I watch the show I am going to be creeped out thinking that he has been &#8216;sexified.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL, then I probably shouldn&#8217;t ruin the Harold &amp; Kumar movies by telling you what I was thinking about Harold&#8230; </p>
<p>Seriously, John Cho is long overdue as a romantic lead, the dude is FINE!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bergin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bergin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed the show and nu-Sulu was my favorite character in the pilot...but now when I watch the show I am going to be creeped out thinking that he has been &quot;sexified.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the show and nu-Sulu was my favorite character in the pilot&#8230;but now when I watch the show I am going to be creeped out thinking that he has been &#8220;sexified.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shola Akinnuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shola Akinnuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked it too, but the trench coat guy had me dying!  It was so corny! He was walking intentionally dramatic, swinging his coat/cape and looking behind him like some devious villain. I thought the implication that somebody was &#039;awake&#039; was cool, but the execution really had me in stitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked it too, but the trench coat guy had me dying!  It was so corny! He was walking intentionally dramatic, swinging his coat/cape and looking behind him like some devious villain. I thought the implication that somebody was &#8216;awake&#8217; was cool, but the execution really had me in stitches.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked FlashForward a lot, too.  More than I&#039;d expected to, truth be told.  That scene with the trenchcoat guy was some of the coolest creepiness I&#039;ve seen on TV in a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked FlashForward a lot, too.  More than I&#8217;d expected to, truth be told.  That scene with the trenchcoat guy was some of the coolest creepiness I&#8217;ve seen on TV in a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kayode Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kayode Kendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew his character was engaged, but they hooked him up with a sista! That&#039;s what&#039;s up! Progress, people! Progress!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew his character was engaged, but they hooked him up with a sista! That&#8217;s what&#8217;s up! Progress, people! Progress!!!</p>
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