<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Brendan &amp; Adan&#8217;s Picks Pans &amp; Scans &#8211; May 23, 2007</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:28:11 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Laura Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-90116</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-90116</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;There is no reason why a block of text at the beginning of your book equals “bad writing.” None whatsoever. This is as much an economic consideration as it is a storytelling one. There is no reason why someone should be forced to spend precious pages explaining the world one has created when these pages would be better used actually telling a story. Your myopic views on how stories can be told are greatly disturbing.&lt;/i&gt;

But &lt;i&gt;what if&lt;/i&gt;... the writer tried to convey those &lt;i&gt;within&lt;/i&gt; these &quot;precious pages,&quot; rather than shunting responsibility for the backstory to a text dump in the introduction?  Part of good writing is accomplishing your goals within the limitations of your context and form, and that device has always struck me as a bit of an easy out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There is no reason why a block of text at the beginning of your book equals “bad writing.” None whatsoever. This is as much an economic consideration as it is a storytelling one. There is no reason why someone should be forced to spend precious pages explaining the world one has created when these pages would be better used actually telling a story. Your myopic views on how stories can be told are greatly disturbing.</i></p>
<p>But <i>what if</i>&#8230; the writer tried to convey those <i>within</i> these &#8220;precious pages,&#8221; rather than shunting responsibility for the backstory to a text dump in the introduction?  Part of good writing is accomplishing your goals within the limitations of your context and form, and that device has always struck me as a bit of an easy out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-88283</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 03:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-88283</guid>
		<description>@Spurrier: Kudos to you and Irving for an engaging first issue that&#039;s broken my Image trade-only rule, joining Fell, Casanova, Strange Girl and Dynamo 5 as the only exceptions!  I&#039;m with Adan on the opening text piece; it worked for me, was smartly written, and perfectly set the tone for the craziness that was to come.  Looking forward to the next issue.

@Adan: Cast my vote for more indie stuff being covered in BAAPPAS. Your Marvel/DC snark/commentary is often a fun read, but I found this edition way more interesting. If you want creator feedback, you can always review one of Slott&#039;s books and suggest people save their money and download it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Spurrier: Kudos to you and Irving for an engaging first issue that&#8217;s broken my Image trade-only rule, joining Fell, Casanova, Strange Girl and Dynamo 5 as the only exceptions!  I&#8217;m with Adan on the opening text piece; it worked for me, was smartly written, and perfectly set the tone for the craziness that was to come.  Looking forward to the next issue.</p>
<p>@Adan: Cast my vote for more indie stuff being covered in BAAPPAS. Your Marvel/DC snark/commentary is often a fun read, but I found this edition way more interesting. If you want creator feedback, you can always review one of Slott&#8217;s books and suggest people save their money and download it!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adan Jimenez</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-88264</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan Jimenez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 02:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-88264</guid>
		<description>&quot;Like I said, we’re absolutely not into patronising our readers. Nor are we into giving them a decompressed ride which can be quickly skimmed-through without missing a beat. We want to challenge you, folks. We want every word you read to mean something, and every picture to spill a thousand more. You’re paying for this stuff, dammit! The least you should expect is value for money!&quot;

Hear, hear! Kudos to you sir, for such a sentiment. One wonders why more creators don&#039;t follow suit. Also, perhaps I&#039;m just a bit slow on the uptake, but I&#039;ve always enjoyed opening spiels. Not just for the quick infodump so that I&#039;m not lost during the opening panels (or reels or paragraphs or what have you), but also because they quickly put me in the mood to enjoy what I&#039;m about to consume. I&#039;m the reason movie companies put the trailer of the movie on the same disc; I watch the trailer before I watch the movie so that I&#039;m in the proper mood to watch the movie. I get to anticipate a little longer, too. So, if a referendum on opening spiels gets put out tomorrow, I&#039;m voting yes.

On an unrelated note, I think the Coach and I should do more creator-owned books here on BAAPPAS. I like it when the creators come on and give their two cents, something big-shot &quot;name&quot; creators rarely do outside their own gilded (and fortified) webpages and forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like I said, we’re absolutely not into patronising our readers. Nor are we into giving them a decompressed ride which can be quickly skimmed-through without missing a beat. We want to challenge you, folks. We want every word you read to mean something, and every picture to spill a thousand more. You’re paying for this stuff, dammit! The least you should expect is value for money!&#8221;</p>
<p>Hear, hear! Kudos to you sir, for such a sentiment. One wonders why more creators don&#8217;t follow suit. Also, perhaps I&#8217;m just a bit slow on the uptake, but I&#8217;ve always enjoyed opening spiels. Not just for the quick infodump so that I&#8217;m not lost during the opening panels (or reels or paragraphs or what have you), but also because they quickly put me in the mood to enjoy what I&#8217;m about to consume. I&#8217;m the reason movie companies put the trailer of the movie on the same disc; I watch the trailer before I watch the movie so that I&#8217;m in the proper mood to watch the movie. I get to anticipate a little longer, too. So, if a referendum on opening spiels gets put out tomorrow, I&#8217;m voting yes.</p>
<p>On an unrelated note, I think the Coach and I should do more creator-owned books here on BAAPPAS. I like it when the creators come on and give their two cents, something big-shot &#8220;name&#8221; creators rarely do outside their own gilded (and fortified) webpages and forums.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-88211</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 00:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-88211</guid>
		<description>I can totally appreciate the opposing position on the text piece. It is the device itself that I have am opposed to, if only because it would have been more appealing as a comic if the text was illustrated in some way. In my opinion that sort of tactic would make better use of the medium. 

But that was meant as a seperate rant and as I said I look forward to the continuation of this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can totally appreciate the opposing position on the text piece. It is the device itself that I have am opposed to, if only because it would have been more appealing as a comic if the text was illustrated in some way. In my opinion that sort of tactic would make better use of the medium. </p>
<p>But that was meant as a seperate rant and as I said I look forward to the continuation of this story.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Si Spurrier</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-88186</link>
		<dc:creator>Si Spurrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-88186</guid>
		<description>Hey folks - Si Spurrier here, writer on Gutsville.

Just thought I&#039;d spend my two pennies&#039; worth on this whole &quot;expositionary text&quot; debate:

When Fraze and I first started putting Gutsville together, the one thing we absolutely did NOT want to do was patronise our readers.  We feel we&#039;ve been scrupulous about avoiding some of the pitfalls we&#039;ve seen in other &quot;world-creating&quot; stories: pages and pages of dull exposition lumped-in with the story, that laud the brilliance of a High Concept and conveniently forget to progress the plot in any way.  

That wasn&#039;t for us.  We&#039;re interested in telling a tale about some interesting people in a very strange situation, not about how bloody clever we are for coming up with a concept higher than a Hollywood Exec&#039;s first nostril-load of the day.

So, why the intro text?

Well: because it doesn&#039;t tell you anything you don&#039;t - or at least should - already know.  That blurb essentially repeats (in a more characterful voice, hopefully) precisely what was stated in the solicitation text that accompanied issue #1.  We don&#039;t have the luxury of a back-cover blurb, to hook casual browsers, so we figured we&#039;d use the inside cover for the same.  

It surprises me that a couple of you mention you&#039;ve had to rely upon that same chunk of text to explain what&#039;s going on in the first issue.  To be brutally honest there&#039;s far more explanatory information carefully buried throughout the issue itself than you&#039;ll get from that crude splat of prose at the start, and - happily - it seems the vast majority of readers are picking up on it all.

Like I said, we&#039;re absolutely not into patronising our readers.  Nor are we into giving them a decompressed ride which can be quickly skimmed-through without missing a beat.  We want to challenge you, folks.  We want every word you read to mean something, and every picture to spill a thousand more.  You&#039;re paying for this stuff, dammit! The least you should expect is value for money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey folks &#8211; Si Spurrier here, writer on Gutsville.</p>
<p>Just thought I&#8217;d spend my two pennies&#8217; worth on this whole &#8220;expositionary text&#8221; debate:</p>
<p>When Fraze and I first started putting Gutsville together, the one thing we absolutely did NOT want to do was patronise our readers.  We feel we&#8217;ve been scrupulous about avoiding some of the pitfalls we&#8217;ve seen in other &#8220;world-creating&#8221; stories: pages and pages of dull exposition lumped-in with the story, that laud the brilliance of a High Concept and conveniently forget to progress the plot in any way.  </p>
<p>That wasn&#8217;t for us.  We&#8217;re interested in telling a tale about some interesting people in a very strange situation, not about how bloody clever we are for coming up with a concept higher than a Hollywood Exec&#8217;s first nostril-load of the day.</p>
<p>So, why the intro text?</p>
<p>Well: because it doesn&#8217;t tell you anything you don&#8217;t &#8211; or at least should &#8211; already know.  That blurb essentially repeats (in a more characterful voice, hopefully) precisely what was stated in the solicitation text that accompanied issue #1.  We don&#8217;t have the luxury of a back-cover blurb, to hook casual browsers, so we figured we&#8217;d use the inside cover for the same.  </p>
<p>It surprises me that a couple of you mention you&#8217;ve had to rely upon that same chunk of text to explain what&#8217;s going on in the first issue.  To be brutally honest there&#8217;s far more explanatory information carefully buried throughout the issue itself than you&#8217;ll get from that crude splat of prose at the start, and &#8211; happily &#8211; it seems the vast majority of readers are picking up on it all.</p>
<p>Like I said, we&#8217;re absolutely not into patronising our readers.  Nor are we into giving them a decompressed ride which can be quickly skimmed-through without missing a beat.  We want to challenge you, folks.  We want every word you read to mean something, and every picture to spill a thousand more.  You&#8217;re paying for this stuff, dammit! The least you should expect is value for money!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adan Jimenez</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-87368</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan Jimenez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 12:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-87368</guid>
		<description>I call bullshit!

There is no reason why a block of text at the beginning of your book equals &quot;bad writing.&quot; None whatsoever. This is as much an economic consideration as it is a storytelling one. There is no reason why someone should be forced to spend precious pages explaining the world one has created when these pages would be better used actually telling a story. Your myopic views on how stories can be told are greatly disturbing.

Also, you&#039;re telling me only &lt;i&gt;Star Wars&lt;/i&gt; used it correctly and not &lt;i&gt;Empire&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Jedi&lt;/i&gt;? Ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call bullshit!</p>
<p>There is no reason why a block of text at the beginning of your book equals &#8220;bad writing.&#8221; None whatsoever. This is as much an economic consideration as it is a storytelling one. There is no reason why someone should be forced to spend precious pages explaining the world one has created when these pages would be better used actually telling a story. Your myopic views on how stories can be told are greatly disturbing.</p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;re telling me only <i>Star Wars</i> used it correctly and not <i>Empire</i> or <i>Jedi</i>? Ridiculous.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Laura Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-86886</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 13:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-86886</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Movies do this all the time when they’re set in the future or some alternate world or whatever. Just a little exposition so your audience isn’t ridiculously lost. I don’t understand your problem with this technique.&lt;/i&gt;

Unless the year is 1977 and your exposition is scrolling upwards over a background of stars, this is not really a good idea.

Sorry bro, but Brendan is correct: the old maxim of &quot;show, don&#039;t tell&quot; is especially true when you&#039;re dealing with a half-visual medium!  If you feel that you can&#039;t start the first issue of your comic without a big block of exposition telling the story of your story, maybe you need to write a better script.  Or be a better writer.  Whichever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Movies do this all the time when they’re set in the future or some alternate world or whatever. Just a little exposition so your audience isn’t ridiculously lost. I don’t understand your problem with this technique.</i></p>
<p>Unless the year is 1977 and your exposition is scrolling upwards over a background of stars, this is not really a good idea.</p>
<p>Sorry bro, but Brendan is correct: the old maxim of &#8220;show, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; is especially true when you&#8217;re dealing with a half-visual medium!  If you feel that you can&#8217;t start the first issue of your comic without a big block of exposition telling the story of your story, maybe you need to write a better script.  Or be a better writer.  Whichever!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/comment-page-1/#comment-86642</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.popcultureshock.com/brendan-adans-picks-pans-scans-may-23-2007/41842/#comment-86642</guid>
		<description>Gutsville was bananas! I had to read it twice for it to all soak in, but it was well worth the effort. Best thing Image has published since Casanova.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gutsville was bananas! I had to read it twice for it to all soak in, but it was well worth the effort. Best thing Image has published since Casanova.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
